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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

10.06.2025 04:14

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

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There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

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One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

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As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

NOW…

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

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I am like a fish out of water,

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Now here in this verse

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

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The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Sain (a barber)

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Kabir (a weaver)

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥